Friday, March 9, 2012

NBC's Grimm Tackles A Princess & the Dragon Story

Another from, Once Upon a Blog.

NBC's Grimm Tackles A Princess & the Dragon Story:
Tonight's episode is called "Plumed Serpent" but with Juliette being abducted by a fire-breathing creature it's pretty clear Nick has to rescue his princess from the dragon - literally.



With Pixar's Brave "I'll rescue myself" heroine on the way and Snow White in armor coming to theaters as well there is a lot of focus on the idea of "We finally have a princess that doesn't need a prince to save her!" I'm very happy to see this trend with regard to family movies and potential role models for girls. Even the mousiest and most retiring women I've met (and I've met a sad few) seem to harbor this secret wish they were stronger, sassier and could hold their own. (I say "even the mousiest" because, though you'd think they'd be the ones to faint if they ever saw a real weapon, I've found these women, even more than the rebels, are the ones fantasizing they could pick it up and use it.) I remember the first time I realized this. It helped me understand that despite all the apparent equality women have today, many still feel powerless and wish they didn't.



But while I'm cheering as much as everyone else about the heroine in Brave in particular, I have to say this one thing - and it's a touchy subject: Is it so bad to be rescued when you really need rescuing?

Elenor Abbott
When it comes down to it, everyone needs rescuing sometime (even our beloved kick-some-serious-butt Buffy!) and that includes every guy I've ever met. To NOT be rescued when you really need it is devastating but here's the thing: rescuing is rarely a one-man show. At the very least some cooperation is required from the rescue-ee. (And don't get me started about rescue-ees who don't really want to be rescued...) The problem I have is when people insist girls/women need to be rescued all the time and don't give us the option to participate (also known as "help"). Women may not always come in swords flashing with the tactical savvy of a well-trained samurai but just because we're not Navy Seals doesn't mean we're helpless either. What's worse than people assuming this about women is when women assume this about themselves. THAT'S the part I have a problem with.

Corey Godbey
The whole objection to having princesses waiting to be rescued is actually two-fold: the first, rarely discussed, part is where the princess allows herself to be put in the position of needing rescuing in the first place. Crap happens to everyone and even the smartest and most on-guard person can be forced into helplessness against their will but what we really want - need - is for girls and women to take ownership (and responsibility) of their situations as much as possible and stop being quite as vulnerable and therefore not need as much rescuing. The second part, where the "action" happens, is rarely as cut and dried as "you helpless/me rescue" - ask anyone who has ever been a victim of violence - but it's often portrayed that way in entertainment. Ultimately this does us all a disservice.

Edward Burne-Jones
Ideally we want everyone - men and women - to take whatever responsibility they can for their own safety and for the safety of those they care for, on every level. There will be times when we could all use a rescuing hand but that doesn't mean we have to be passive about it. It's like opportunity: it should be taken when it comes but you need to be prepared for it, because after that, the rest is up to you.



I'm aware this is the second post on the topic of women and violence (or women and passivity) in two days but I hope it's clear I'm not against "chicks with weapons". (Heck, I have a couple!) What I'm concerned about is having people - men and women - be forced into one extreme or other without allowing them to find their own balance according to their personality, strengths and weaknesses, which differ for everyone. Equally as important is taking responsibility for yourself as much as you can, no matter what situation you're in.



*steps down off soapbox*



I'm curious to see how this hot-button topic of a princess in need of rescue is handled in Grimm this week. I hope there are some twists, some surprises and that there's more to this episode than killing the dragon to save the girl.



Here's the promo:

I'm sure there are a bazillion excellent articles on the topic that have probably said things much better than I just have  - or perhaps made arguments on the other end of the spectrum that should be considered - so if you know of one feel free to put the link in the comments so we can all have a read. 


In the meantime I have to go do my workout and sharpen the tip of my foil... :)

Friday, February 17, 2012

A Wrecking Ball for Writer’s Block: The Storymatic Creates Stories

This one is a gem from Wired's Geek Dad blog (also with Geek Moms).
A Wrecking Ball for Writer’s Block: The Storymatic Creates Stories:


Ever wish you had something to write about when your brain goes dead? The Storymatic is here to the rescue.


Part writing prompt, part teaching tool, part parlor game, The Storymatic is a clever little box packed with 500+ cards. Open the lid and you open a nearly endless realm of possible plots, characters, situations, conundrums, and tall tales.


A gold card.


Here’s how it works. First, you draw two gold cards.


They might be “dentist” and “amateur boxer.” These form the basis of your main character: a dentist who also happens to be a heavyweight champ (or failed heavyweight champ, or heavyweight wannabe) or a heavyweight boxer who is studying to be a dentist (‘cuz he feels guilty about all the teeth he’s knocked out).


Or perhaps you get “member of the wedding” and “person with a devastating secret.” You can’t go wrong with that.


Either of these characters sound like fun. Like trouble. Like a good story.


One of the copper cards from The Storymatic


Then you pull one or two copper cards. You might draw a “at last, love,” or “email that cannot be un-sent.” These are situations, and they begin to lead you into a story.


You feel a narrative brewing, don’t you?


I’ve tried The Storymatic in my writing classes, and I can attest it’s foolproof. You can’t NOT write a story. Or write a song. Or make a movie. In other words, you can’t not starting spinning a tale.


Best of all, it’s not an app. It doesn’t require electricity. All you need is the box of cards, a pencil and paper, and a little time. And it’s great for kids and teens, too.



Brian David Mooney, the brains behind The Storymatic


The tool – if you want to call The Storymatic a tool – is the brainchild of Brian David Mooney, a guy who grew up in Western Massachusetts and assumed he would be a baseball player when he grew up. That hasn’t worked out yet (so far, anyway), so instead, Mooney became a writer of fiction, non-fiction, and poetry. Among his cool literary credentials and publications, his short stories have been presented by Leonard Nimoy at the Chicago Museum of Contemporary Art, Paramount Studios, and Jazz at Lincoln Center. He’s also taught creative writing at Marlboro College (Vermont) and the University of Massachusetts, and he’s been with The Putney School Summer Programs (in Vermont) since 1998.


I had a chance to ask Mooney about where The Storymatic came from and what people are using it for, among other questions.


Gilsdorf: Where did you get the idea for The Storymatic?


Mooney: I like making up my own writing prompts and exercises. The Storymatic started as a prompt back when I was teaching fiction workshop at Marlboro College. Back then, it was a few slips of white paper in a lunch bag. The prompt went pretty well, so I took it to my high school summer classes at The Putney School Summer Programs. At Putney, I put it on colored construction paper and put the cards in a little box. For a few years, I kept tinkering and tinkering, and the prompt got bigger and bigger.


Some of the kids wanted to buy The Storymatic from me in class, and when I told them there was only one Storymatic and it was all mine, they said I was an idiot for not making more than one and selling it. Finally, I took their advice.


Gilsdorf: How do you think The Storymatic works? Is there something about randomness that makes us more creative?


Mooney: I believe that stories are all around us, and we just need to let them find us. If I were a sculptor and you asked me where my work came from, I would say it was already present in the stone. That’s how I view things, and that’s the governing principle I had in mind in creating The Storymatic. I wanted to make something that opened the pipeline to stories that are already in the air around us. And I think it does exactly that. You draw the cards and you just know there’s a story there. How you tell it is up to you.


It’s a little hard for me to view the cards as random, because so much thought went into them. But I know what you mean. The Storymatic encourages you to unite elements that you might not usually expect to go together, and it encourages you to see where those elements take you. That can seem random, I suppose. But it also kind of feels natural to me.


Gilsdorf: Does it work for so-called writer’s block? Does writer’s block even exist?


Mooney: I think writer’s block is one of those things that if you think you have it, you have it. Which I suppose means that it exists. I’ve certainly had students who were convinced they had it. I might disagree with them sticking a label like that on themselves, but that doesn’t change the fact that they were frustrated that it was so hard to get something down on the page (or screen).


So The Storymatic comes partly out of the experience of working with people who felt blocked. I wanted to make a wrecking ball for them. I wanted to give them something that could obliterate the block. And I wanted something that could be used in lot of different ways, in lots of different settings. If you want to get over, past, or around a block by working collaboratively, it’ll help with that. If you want to sit quietly by yourself and go through the cards until you connect with something, it’ll help you do that.


Anyway, I think one way to make a block go away is by saying yes in a somewhat directed fashion. The Storymatic is a big ol’ box of Yes.


Gilsdorf: Is it only for creative types, or have you seen Storymatic generate stories (or poems, essays, etc) for people who don’t consider themselves writers?


Mooney: Early on, I thought The Storymatic was mostly a writer’s thing. But it’s not. It’s for anyone who wants to tap into their imagination. Maybe that leads to something that’s written. But it can also lead to things that are sung, or drawn, or told collaboratively around the dinner table or during a ride in the car. It’s for people who write, want to write, and have no intention of writing.


Gilsdorf: What are some of best card combos you’ve seen that have produced some great results?


Mooney: There are too many to count. Sometimes it’s eerily prescient.


I was at the New York International Gift Show a couple weeks ago, and one of the fire marshals stopped by because she was curious what it was, and she drew, “firefighter, singer of showtunes, and neglected sibling.” She put the cards to her chest and said, “That’s totally me. How did it do that?”


That kind of thing happens more than you’d think.


Gilsdorf: What are some cool stories about how it’s being used?


Mooney: Wow. So many. I heard from a mom who loves to play games, but her kids have zero interest in doing that. It really made her sad to have kids who didn’t want to play games with her. But she got The Storymatic, and her kids were curious. Then one night the whole family drew cards and all went off to write stories for a little while. Then they came back and read them to each aloud. She said they’d never laughed so hard before, and she got a real insight into her kids’ creative minds. I love that. I love how intergenerational it’s turned out to be.


Here’s another cool one. I was contacted a while back by a little production studio in Pennsylvania called Chochkey Productions, and we wound up creating the Fiction to Film Contest. People submitted their Storymatic-inspired work for a chance to have it made into a film by Chochkey. The winning entry was by Santa Cruz writer Kyle Petersen. The folks at Chochkey absolutely fell in love with Petersen’s story. They adapted the story into a solid screenplay, raised some money on Kickstarter, and made a beautiful 20-minute film called “One Way Out,” which recently won Best Short Film in the Greater LeHigh Valley Film Festival. That’s pretty cool, right?



And I love this song by teenage songwriter Sarah Hooper, who draw the cards “monsters!” and “person with a broken nose.”


There are so many cool things, Ethan. Like, I’ve talked to therapists who get it to help their patients tell made-up stories, so they can take ownership of their own stories. Speech pathologists. Language teachers. Improv classes at senior centers…


I’m always psyched to see things that get made and posted online, whether they’re stories or comics or photos. But of equal pleasure are things I come across where people just say something like, “We used The Storymatic last night and laughed and laughed and laughed.”


Gilsdorf: So where is the Storymatic made?


Mooney: U! S! A!


About that: we’re going to be at the Book Expo America in June. I talked to one of the organizers last week about the Made in America section I’d seen advertised. He said they had to cancel it because they only had about six eligible products. Isn’t that sad?


Gilsdorf: How do we get one?


Mooney: It’s in quite a few shops, some big ones and some small ones. And it’s online in a variety of places. If your local bookstore, game store, educational store, or gift shop doesn’t carry it, feel free to encourage them to contact me. I would like more brick and mortar places to carry it. I’m very much about thingness, and The Storymatic is a very nice thing.


I know I’m not being very specific, but the stores that carry it have all been so supportive that if I start naming one, I’ll have to name them all.


Gilsdorf: Why would a fiction writer/poet/baseball junkie like you get involved in this?


Mooney: It’s The Storymatic‘s fault. It’s leading. I’m following where it goes.


You can read more about Storymatic here.

Saturday, February 11, 2012

Christophe Gans Taking "Beauty" to Big Screen

Sharing another great post from "Once Upon A Blog".
Christophe Gans Taking "Beauty" to Big Screen:


Guzel ve Cirkin (Beauty and The Beast)

It's not a remake of Jean Cocteau's La Belle et La Bete. Instead it is supposed to both visually stunning and darker than any of the (better known) Beauty & the Beast films to date. It's also aimed at families so considering it's easy to "get dark" with early versions of Beauty & the Beast, I'm curious to see how dark "dark" is, while still being kid-friendly. Imagine Disney's Beauty & the Beast as a live action film: if all those scenes had played straight (the first Beast appearance, the wood, the wolves, the prison, the Beat's tantrums, the mob, the hunt etc) - minus singing and dancing - it wouldn't have been half as kid-friendly as it is.



Vincent Cassel and Lea Seydoux are already confirmed to star.

The film is simply titled Beauty and shooting is scheduled to begin early October, 2012. It will also be a French language film, which is very appropriate on a number of levels and makes me far more interested in the film than I would have been otherwise.



From ScienceFiction.com:

Gans is best known for directing the movies ‘Silent Hill’ and ‘Brotherhood of the Wolf.’ He not only will direct this version of ‘Beauty and the Beast’ but also wrote the screen adaptation that aims to “unleash” his imagination. Gans recently told Variety that his ‘Beauty’ is based on one of the earliest versions of the tale and will be aimed at both adults and kids. “It talks, among other things, about the power of dreams and love versus materialism and corruption, which makes it more than ever relevant today.”
“Although I will keep to a form of storytelling of this timeless fairy tale that is in keeping with the same pace and characters as the original,” he explains, “I will surprise the audience by creating a completely new visual universe never experienced before and produce images of an unparalleled quality. Every single one of my movies has presented me with a challenge,” he continued, “but this one is, by far, the most exciting and rewarding.”



Beauty and the Beast by Tyler James
Are you torn between being happy and shaking your head at the double/triple-ups of fairy tale retellings coming to the big screen? (Let alone the multiple variations appearing on the smaller screen?) You may enjoy AVClub's announcement of the film HERE (I certainly did), which also mentions a (possible) Guillermo del Toro B&tB movie project, currently in development with Emma Watson (he's got on LOT on his development plate at the moment!).



I have yet to see a film (including Cocteau's which I love) in which I didn't echo Greta Garbo's cry of "Give me back my beast!" That, to me, would be the ultimate challenge in making a Beauty & the Beast film unique. Yes, please do make it beautiful, layered, suspenseful. Make it classic yet relevant and make it meaningful but above all, make the transformation from beast to human work. Otherwise I don't really see the point.



Note: The illustrations have nothing to do with the film project. I just thought they were unique and lovely Beauty & the Beast illustrations. The illustration at the head of the post is by artist, Ertac Altinoz. He's from Turkey and has one of those mind-blowing talents you occasionally come across. You can find his deviantArt gallery HERE and another on CGHub HERE. There are multiple pages showcasing his work also at Gods of Art HERE.



The second image is by another talented CG artist, Tyler James (known as ArtofTy on deviantArt) who has a lovely gallery HERE. You can see more of his amazing work at his also-amazing blog, HERE.



Article sources: HERE, HERE & HERE

Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Great Geek Debates: Disney Princesses vs. Hayao Miyazaki

This is from Wired magazines blog, Geek Dads.

Great Geek Debates: Disney Princesses vs. Hayao Miyazaki:

Disney and Studio Ghibli


Perhaps it is a leftover from my ancient academic ambitions or the early development of my reading habit, but I tend to take stories more seriously than the average person. As a dad, I am also highly sensitive to the influence both stories and the broader culture have on my children. Young children are still developing their capacity to distinguish fact from fiction. It seems reasonable to assume they are more influenced by the stories we give them than an adult, who is better able to separate himself from the impact and message of a story. This is such a common-sense assumption that most of us take it for granted. Yet, it underlies so many of the cultural rules and regulations by which we organize our children’s lives, from the ratings on videogames, movies and graphic novels, to the vain attempts by legislators to regulate internet pornography and advertising during children’s programming.


If I keep a close watch on the adult content in the media my three daughters consume, I am no different than many parents. I mean most of us do try to aspire to something greater than the Chris Rock standard of parenting. (Warning: the link has adult language and content.)


However, what causes a small spike on the overactive parent detector is my refusal to accept at face value the stories our consumer-driven culture tries to sell my children. Many parents will react strongly to sexual content, foul language or violence, but as long as such taboos are not broken, they appear to be content to let their children consume just about any story sold to them by our corporate storytellers.


On the other hand, I can spontaneously launch into a whole list of diatribes on the failings of quality children’s storytelling in visual media with only the slightest provocation. Nothing brings a conversation among a group of parents to a full stop like launching into an impassioned plea for family films to present healthy male role models for my daughters. “Why is it dad is almost always the source of conflict?” I will ask. After a long uncomfortable silence, in which the other parents try to assess whether I just need therapy or if they need to avoid play dates at my home, someone will move the conversation along to a nice safe topic like last week’s swim lessons.



Little Mermaid screenshot

King Triton is one center of conflict in Disney's The Little Mermaid


Being a parent of girls, I have an almost primal reaction to the Walt Disney princess industrial complex. The sight of a Jasmine costume marketed to my 5-year-old can cause me to break out in hives. It isn’t so much the bare midriff, although I think that does have an influence on how my 5-year-old perceives and relates to her body. My frustration comes from the quality of the stories themselves. The stories of the Disney princess industrial complex follow a formula which sells massive amounts of princess swag but can be highly problematic in what it teaches young girls about their worth and value.


My 5-year-old is just now finishing her education about the difference between real and pretend. Kindergarten seems to help. I cringe when she plays dress-up and pretends to be one of the princesses from the Disney canon. It just creeps me out, like I am watching my child pretend to play Britney or Lindsey or their apprentice Miley, all three of which got their start as child stars with Disney.


Which is why I am grateful my geek instincts led me to be a somewhat early adopter of Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli anime. I have been hooked since I first saw Spirited Away, and I have found his work to provide a needed vaccine for my girls against the creeping illness of princess-itis. (Yes, I am aware Disney owns the distribution rights for the English dubs. I am not against Disney per se, and Disney knows a good story when it sees one. It works very hard to own as many of them as it possibly can. But I will note, the stories I find worth watching are ones Disney had to go out and purchase from other studios, and when that didn’t work they just bought the studio itself.)


Chihiro from Spirited Away By Hayao Miyazaki

Chihiro from Spirited Away By Hayao Miyazaki


Here is a list of the three most important reasons why I would rather have my daughter pretending to be any Miyazaki heroine over a Disney princess:


1. Archetypes versus Characters

One of the major reasons Disney princesses are so effective as marketing vehicles for children is they distill what it means to be a girl or boy down to a highly simplified formula easy for young children to grasp. Put on a princess dress and I am a girl. Wear a sword, I am a boy. Such stereotyping works really well for a 3- to 6-year-old mind which is just beginning to grapple with gender differences and their consequences. As effective as these stereotypes can be at selling princess products to young girls, these oversimplified notions of gender become problematic when you examine what a princess does.


Here there is a bit of a split in the Disney canon. Old-school Disney relied on a tried and true damsel-in-distress model, in which the heroine of stories like Sleeping Beauty, Snow White and Cinderella did very little to fix their situation. They weren’t often actors in their own drama, other than perhaps to cook or clean and look intoxicatingly beautiful for the prince, so he would act to save her from her passive plight.


New school Disney at least allows the women in the story to be actors in their own right. Often they act to save the prince: Ariel, Belle and Mulan are easy examples. However, such agency is deeply undermined when all the agency of the princess is used in the service of the princess’ relationship with the hero. Mulan is perhaps the exception here. Her agency is motivated not by a man but rather by service to her family and country. Yet, Mulan is somewhat the exception which proves the rule, and in the end, the final effect of that agency, what makes it complete, is the hero asking her father for Mulan’s hand in marriage. I also note she is one of the least marketed of the Disney heroines. Except for Mulan, almost all the actions of Disney princesses still seem to be defined in relationship to their man.


In contrast, Miyazaki’s female leads offer a far more complex picture of what it means to be a person. They often have agency outside of their relationships to men. In Spirited Away, 10-year-old Chihiro risks her own safety to save her parents. The romance in the plot is tangential and works alongside this mission, rather than being a central focus of her life. This is true for many Miyazaki films, from Castle in the Sky to A Whisper of the Heart, which Miyazaki wrote but did not direct.


Don’t misunderstand; this isn’t a rant against romance. My two very favorite Miyazaki films are Howl’s Moving Castle and A Whisper of the Heart, both of which are classic romances that follow the formula to a T. However, the two heroines in these films, Sophie and Shizuku respectively, both have interests, a life, and a personality beyond their relationships with men. But it isn’t just a question of romance or not. As I was thinking about this piece, I couldn’t figure out why, but I knew I really didn’t like Disney’s vision of romance, and for some reason I really enjoy Miyazaki’s. It took a conversation with my daughters to define what bothered me.

Here is the link for the rest of the post. http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/01/disney-vs-miyazaki/all/1

Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Memes Make Writing Rules More Fun!

A great grammar post from YA Highway.

Memes Make Writing Rules More Fun!: Please excuse my dear Aunt Sally.

My very educated mother just served us noodles. (Anyone else still sad about Pluto? Just me?)

They're mnemonics. They're usually silly. And they help us to remember random things. But in this lovely age of technology the internet has brought us something even better.

Memes.
They're not just for Chuck Norris anymore.






English is often coined as one of the most difficult languages to learn given all the rules and take-backsies of said rules in particular though rarely make-sensible situations. Never fear. The internet, as always, has got your back.




Everyone, every one. Alot, a lot. For help remembering when to hit that space bar . . .

Brilliance by Hyperbole and a Half












I'm not judging your story either way. Just be sure YOU know what you mean . . .






















It's like the internet has eyes and sees into my documents o.O
tricky, tricky . . .

Don't lie. You've done it too.








Also not to be confused with Yar, which is, obviously, the language of the Pirate.






What are your favorite grammar memes?

Fairy Tale Photography by Irina Istratova

From, Once Upon a Blog.
Fairy Tale Photography by Irina Istratova:


Irina Istratova is an artist from the Ukraine who has a preference for the dark side but this photographer/photomanipulator/digital artist has also produced some lovely fairy tale-like pieces.




















I like that despite her obvious preference for the dark and morbid side of things she shares this ultra romantic tale on her profile of how she met her husband. I have to wonder if meeting him inspired her to work on some of the fairy tale romantic images posted here. :)
























Irina Istratova




You can see more of her work HERE and HERE (but of course, remember you will see some 'dark' work there too).

Monday, December 12, 2011

Snow White by Jasmin Darnell

Another fairy tale related post from, Once Upon A Blog.

Snow White by Jasmin Darnell:


Snow White by Jasmin Darnell a.k.a. yasahime
After my little rant about bad illustrations in my previous post I simply had to put up something beautiful. I found this lovely illustration quite a while ago and it immediately came to mind as a gorgeous contrast and an example of how the illustrations mentioned could have been handled, inspiring kids and grown ups everywhere to go find beautiful fairy tale books of their own to read. This illustration isn't even considered complete, according to the artist's notes!



This Kiwi artist is only just getting going in her career and I wish her the best of luck in her plans to illustrate anthologies of children's literature. I'd love to see what she comes up with. While we wait for that to happen ;), she has a small Etsy shop HERE and a gallery on deviantArt HERE.



And speaking of beautiful illustration, here are just a few of my favorite illustrated collections of fairy tales (as one might suspect, I have many!), other than my Lang and multiple Dover collections, which I adore (H.J. Ford is one of my favorite illustrators of all time). These covers are in no particular order and are really just the first few I pulled off my (currently very mixed-up) shelves:








This I like because there are so many world tales in the book & the illustrations are like complete story murals all by themselves.






What are some of your favorite illustrated fairy tale volumes?

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Bluebeard Illustration Roundup

Another lovely fairy tale post from, Once Upon a Blog.

Bluebeard Illustration Roundup:


Bluebeard by littlecrow (Ashley Vercekaites)


Bluebeard has been on my mind since the last Grimm episode on NBC so I thought I'd share what I found around the web (many of them led back to deviantArt accounts).



I always enjoy seeing different artist interpretations of a fairy tale. Every now and then you'll see something that makes you think about the tale in a slightly different way - and that's fantastic. Many of these do that. Others I included just because the look is so different.



Please do click on the image above at the head of the post and see it full size. It's simply beautiful and I couldn't make it big enough here to do it justice.



Links to the artist's site, or where I found them, are below each image.






Bluebeard's Gallery by hogret



Bluebeard by biffno





Bluebeard by BleedingArt21







Bluebeard Colors by charkxl



Bluebeard by Benjamin Lacombe*





Bluebeard by Thierry Dedieu





Le Barbe Bleu by ZhdaNN





Barbe-bleue by ThornBulle





Bluebeard by Yulia Valeeva





Bluebeard conceptual cover by Franco Spagnolo





Bluebeard's Last Wife by hogret
*Benjamin Lacombe is one of my favorite artists ever and I have two special posts in the making, waiting for the day I will finish them and post them!